NOEL KING, HOST:
A few days ago, we reported that the U.S. tried to deport a Chinese immigrant who had joined the U.S. military. The government then called it a mistake and reversed it.
STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:
Now the Associated Press reports many immigrants have trouble with the military. Many enlisted in exchange for a path to citizenship, and many have served honorably. But some recruits are now being discharged, including a Chinese man - Panshu Zhao.
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PANSHU ZHAO: This is a whole disaster. This is a total mess - a big mess.
INSKEEP: He's on a student visa and is at Texas A and M. He enlisted two years ago and served in the Army Reserve while awaiting orders for full-time training. Instead, his recruiter told him that, for unspecified reasons, he failed a background check.
What made you want to join the United States Army?
ZHAO: There are many reasons. I mean, first, I come from China, but I was raised in a family where my parents gave me a lot of American literatures and also the Bible to read when I was a child. And then I moved to USA. I joined a church - Christian church - and also, I was in - because all my American life, I spent in the time eight years in Texas A and M. You know, it's a military school, basically. We have ROTC program. I have a lot of friends.
INSKEEP: Yeah. This is a university that embraces the United States military - that you walk through the student center and see photos...
INSKEEP: ...Of fallen heroes.
ZHAO: Exactly. So I feel join the army is something I can do. I mean, I have my degree, I have a good degree, but I want to do something more than that. I mean, I want to contribute my energy, my time and my effort into the military to pay back to the community.
INSKEEP: So you have served the last couple of years in the Army Reserves.
ZHAO: Already, yes - already.
ZHAO: And, suddenly, they told me I can't be a soldier anymore without telling me specifically why and even not giving me any chance to appeal for that. That's not really fair, to be honest with you.
INSKEEP: And we should mention the Pentagon has yet to acknowledge a large change in policy, but the Associated Press did find something - around 40 people who were in your situation of having been abruptly let go.
ZHAO: I would say more than that. I mean (laughter), 40's a very conservative estimate - but for sure more than 40.
INSKEEP: What does that mean for your future?
ZHAO: Well, first, I have to give up my military dream. I mean, that's a good dream, that's a great dream - to serving the people, the great people of the United States. I have to abandon my military career because I really want to join the ROTC and become officer later.
And also, this kind of changes in my immigration status because I served in the army, I post from my school and I have due with my immigration status right now.
The third thing - that I'm kind of barred about going back to China because I organize - well, I mean, while I was waiting, I also organized with my good friend Deb Tien Wong (ph) - we organized a small group of organization to helping Asian soldiers like me. About 300 people joined in this group. So this group is called Asian-American soldiers for America. So basically, this is a group - this small organization is trying to help Asian soldiers to better serve United States. And we did a lot of things. Like, we delivered letters to President Trump last year. We talked to different senators and congressmen in person. And I'm pretty sure the Chinese government knows what I did, and that they know my name. So (laughter) you know, I don't know what will happen if I go back.
INSKEEP: You're saying that it may not be safe for you to go back?
ZHAO: Yes, exactly.
INSKEEP: Has this experience changed your view of America in any way?
ZHAO: No, not really. I mean, it's not the people's fault. It's not the country's fault. It's not the army's fault. It's just some silly procedure - or I would say stereotypes or a certain group of people. That's how I feel.
INSKEEP: Panshu Zhao, thank you very much.
ZHAO: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
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