Check-In: No Skirting Around It Ophira Eisenberg and Jonathan Coulton challenge gender norms.

Check-In: No Skirting Around It

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JONATHAN COULTON: From NPR and WNYC, coming to you from beautiful Brooklyn, N.Y., it's NPR's hour of puzzles, word games and trivia, ASK ME ANOTHER. I'm Jonathan Coulton. Now here's your host, Ophira Eisenberg.


Hi, Jonathan.

COULTON: Hi, Ophira. How's it going?

EISENBERG: Good. You know, I was thinking about you because I was remembering that you said that, you know, in the summer...


EISENBERG: ...The worst thing you can think of in the heat is having to put on a suit.

COULTON: Yeah, it's true. It's too restrictive for the hot weather. Yeah.

EISENBERG: Have you thought of a kilt?

COULTON: Oh, a kilt as my summer uniform.


COULTON: A kilt.

EISENBERG: I see it around Brooklyn, and I think, yes, a male alternative.

COULTON: I mean, it feels like - oh, boy, it feels like it's probably great, right? I've never worn a kilt, but...


COULTON: I think the main reason is I am afraid that I would like it too much. I mean...

EISENBERG: That's a good reason not to do something. I have all kinds of things like that.

COULTON: Yeah. I feel like, what if I got a kilt and then it was, like, the greatest thing ever?


COULTON: And then I had to be kilt guy.

EISENBERG: OK, so you know, let's not - ha-ha - skirt around it.

COULTON: (Laughter).

EISENBERG: It's so - but seriously, like, why not just wear a skirt?

COULTON: Right. I'll tell you, Ophira. I have a good friend, and every year for his birthday, he has a dress party where everyone must wear a dress.


COULTON: And I went to that party.


COULTON: And I put on this dress, and I wore it at this party, and it felt fantastic.


COULTON: I looked - first of all, I think I looked pretty good in this dress.

EISENBERG: I do not imagine anything different.

COULTON: But it was great. It felt great. And I agree. Like, I wish that I had the guts to walk around in a skirt or a dress all the time because it feels very comfortable in the summertime.

EISENBERG: So if I would - could I - if I could just add to that, I would say, in my entire performing career, I have always worn heels. And often they are either gold or silver.

COULTON: Yeah. You kind of have a show shoe.

EISENBERG: Show shoe. And then recently I was like, oh, my goodness, I have to walk up and down off of a stage? I'm going to put on my sneakers.

COULTON: Yeah. Yep.

EISENBERG: And you know what happened? Nothing. It was great.


COULTON: You know, these last few shows that I did, I've been wearing these, like, dumb dad, you know...

EISENBERG: Dumb dad.

COULTON: ...Running sneakers all the time. And I had the same thing. I was like, I'm - you know what? I'm not going to bring a show shoe on this trip, and I'm just going to wear these sneakers on stage.


COULTON: And know what happened?


COULTON: I got called out. Somebody was like, why didn't you put on a fancy shoe?

EISENBERG: No. Really?

COULTON: (Laughter) Yeah.

EISENBERG: Wow. You can wear your dad sneaks to this show, OK?

COULTON: Oh, good - my dad sneaks and my T-shirt?


EISENBERG: Today's show is 100% friendtestant (ph) fun. We have two returning contestant pairs. First, from the podcast "Love About Town," Kenice Mobley and Rohan Padhye are back. Last time they joined us, they made the mistake of being super-super-smart, so this time we're throwing one of the hardest games we have at them. Plus, the hilarious hosts of "The War Report," Shalewa Sharpe and Gastor Almonte, will once again join us to use their signature strategy of scrutinizing every word of every sentence of every clue. So let's get to it.


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