Meghan Trainor rediscovers her self-love as a new mom The pop star first drew attention with the 2014 hit "All About That Bass" — she's back with a new full-length album hearkening to that era, called Takin' It Back.

Meghan Trainor rediscovers her self-love as a new mom

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LEILA FADEL, HOST:

Remember Meghan Trainor's style when she first topped the charts in 2014?

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "ALL ABOUT THAT BASS")

MEGHAN TRAINOR: (Singing) Because you know I'm all about that bass, about that bass, no treble. I'm all about that bass, about that bass, no treble. I'm all about...

FADEL: Well, with her new album, "Takin' It Back," she's taking back that old-school sound that made her famous.

TRAINOR: All the comments I've seen recently are like, oh, yes, this is our Meghan Trainor from 2014. We love her and miss her. So I'm just trying to take it back to that time but, like, an elevated version.

FADEL: Let's talk about what's changed with you since your last album. You've become a mom.

TRAINOR: Yes, I'm a mama now, and everything's much more important, and everything's also scarier. And...

FADEL: Yeah.

TRAINOR: But I feel like I've accomplished so much with just this baby, you know, that I'm like, if I can make a baby, I could do anything. I could have a C-section and survive. I can do anything, like, easy. And then I lost - because that was so hard, I was like, next challenge, and I lost - the healthy way - 60 pounds.

FADEL: Wow.

TRAINOR: And I was like, oh, nothing can stop me. I'm on fire. And then I wrote this album.

FADEL: The music is upbeat. It makes you want to dance. But Trainor's also unpacking things a lot of women and new moms deal with, from the scars left behind by her C-section to the weight gain that made her feel less than beautiful. In her song titled "Made You Look," she sings about the moment she learned to love her body again.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "MADE YOU LOOK")

TRAINOR: (Singing) I could have my Gucci on. I could wear my Louis Vuitton. But even with nothing on, bet I made you look. I made you look.

My therapist said - when I was working through all the scar work and the body love, she was like, I want you to stand in the mirror naked for five minutes every day. And the first day I was, like, shaking and staring at the clock, like, am I done? And by the third day I was like, well, you know what? I got nice legs. So, like, I could slowly see myself liking myself more. So when I was in the shower one day, I was trying to write that in a song of, like, I don't have to, like, dress in all this fancy clothes. I can wear a hoodie, and my husband still thinks I'm hot. And I could be naked, and he thinks I'm hot. And I'm like, I still made you look, like, after all of that.

FADEL: Yeah. I want to talk about the song "Superwoman."

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "SUPERWOMAN")

TRAINOR: (Singing) Because I cry more than a little, and if I'm superwoman, I'm flying in the rain. And I wonder, will it ever get old being a superwoman, smiling through the pain. Even heroes cry.

FADEL: It's not really about a superwoman who's perfect - right? - and all of those pressures on women specifically to have work-life balance and do it all.

TRAINOR: Yeah. I felt weird. I was being interviewed a lot about, like, you had a baby. Everything's perfect. You're writing music, and you're so confident. You love your body. How do you do it all? And I was like, oh, you've misunderstood. Like, I was like, I feel like a hypocrite. I was like, I'm none of those things.

FADEL: Yeah.

TRAINOR: Like, I am - I'm a badass, and I'm accomplishing a lot. But sometimes I just want to cry in a hole, and, like, I want someone to take care of me. And so that's what "Superwoman" was about. And it was about the work balance with my mom guilt of, like, I don't see my kid a lot when I'm at work all day, and how do I - I want four kids, and I'm like, what am I going to do if I am working? I don't get to see all four of them, you know?

FADEL: Yeah.

TRAINOR: So you know how you can spiral.

FADEL: Yeah.

TRAINOR: But, yeah, I just didn't - I didn't want people to think this is all - everything's perfect, you know?

FADEL: Yeah. "While You're Young" - that song to me felt like almost, like, advice to a younger version of yourself.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "WHILE YOU'RE YOUNG")

TRAINOR: (Singing) I know you been hurting for weeks. You stay up late and cry yourself to sleep. And it's OK if you don't like what you see. You've only just begun, and you're good enough. And I know...

TRAINOR: Yes. "While You're Young" was a song for puberty - was a song for me. I - 'cause I've been looking at pictures of me, like, as a teenager. I'm like, oh, boy, you know? I'm like, this sweet girl. I want to hug her. So I wanted to write a song about it of, like, girl, I know it's been tough, but I promise you, all your dreams are going to come true. So go ahead and make those mistakes.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "WHILE YOU'RE YOUNG")

TRAINOR: (Singing) Go on and make mistakes. Give your heart a break. And remember, when life goes on...

TRAINOR: She would never believe that I would become a pop star. And she never thought she would marry "Spy Kids," you know, like...

(LAUGHTER)

FADEL: But she did. Trainor's married to "Spy Kids" legend Daryl Sabara, and he had some expectations to live up to. One of Trainor's earliest hits, "Dear Future Husband," made it clear what she was looking for.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "DEAR FUTURE HUSBAND")

TRAINOR: (Singing) Take me on a date. I deserve a break. And don't forget the flowers every anniversary. 'Cause if you treat me right, I'll be the perfect wife, buying groceries, buying, buying what you need.

FADEL: So I just had to ask, was he the guy you described in the song?

TRAINOR: Oh, yeah. But he's way better than what I was describing. You know, he opens every door, and he gives me foot rubs almost every night. He loves me. He knows how hard I'm working.

FADEL: That's so sweet.

TRAINOR: He takes care of our kid while I'm at work all day. That's the biggest thing we have is, like, we take care of each other. That's different than any relationship I ever had.

FADEL: Yeah.

TRAINOR: And as my partner in this life, we're just trying to make each other level up. It's really awesome to have someone like him.

FADEL: Yeah. I love that. We help each other level up.

TRAINOR: Yeah.

FADEL: You're very active on TikTok. I wanted to ask about how it's changed the way people make music.

TRAINOR: TikTok can blow up a song from any year, from any artist with - label or no label. Like, there's no rules anymore. And when I saw that, I was like, OK, the universe is speaking. They want the doo-wop, and I'm going to bring it. But then every song on this album, I was like, oh, TikTok's going to love it, you know, like "Mama Wanna Mambo."

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "MAMA WANNA MAMBO")

TRAINOR: (Singing) Mama want to mambo, mambo. Mama want to mambo, mambo. Baby, why don't we go, we go somewhere we can mambo, mambo?

TRAINOR: I was like, oh, my God. All the moms are going to dance to this while, like, holding their babies or doing something crazy, you know?

FADEL: Trainor calls this album, "Takin' It Back," her favorite.

What makes it so different? What makes it your favorite?

TRAINOR: Each song has a purpose and has an important message. A lot of these songs can turn your day around if you're having a tough day. So I'll be your therapist. Pop on this album, and have a great old time. And I want people to feel like I'm hugging them, you know, hugging them while dancing to them. I'll be everyone's bestie.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "TAKIN' IT BACK")

TRAINOR: (Singing) When the rhythm gets you high, going to put you in the mood.

FADEL: Meghan Trainor - her new album is called "Takin' It Back."

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "TAKIN' IT BACK")

TRAINOR: (Singing) 'Cause you can't even lie - kind of makes you want to move.

FADEL: Thanks so much, Meghan. This was such a pleasure.

TRAINOR: Thank you. You're amazing. Thank you for the best day ever. Thank you.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "TAKIN' IT BACK")

TRAINOR: (Singing) Moving to the beat, if you start to lose control...

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