Defense Budget Amendment May Bring Pullout The Senate is considering a series of amendments to the 2008 Defense budget that could set in motion a large-scale troop drawdown. By the end of this week, the White House is scheduled to deliver a report to Congress assessing the early impact of the President's new Iraq strategy.
NPR logo

Hear NPR's Guy Raz

  • Download
  • <iframe src="" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player">
  • Transcript
Defense Budget Amendment May Bring Pullout

Hear NPR's Guy Raz

  • Download
  • <iframe src="" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player">
  • Transcript


This is MORNING EDITION from NPR News. I'm Renee Montagne.


NPR's Guy Raz reports.

GUY RAZ: Just how important is this week for the future of the president's Iraq policy? Well, important enough for Defense Secretary Robert Gates to cancel an official trip to Latin America. He made the decision just hours before his plane was supposed to leave. Now, Gates wasn't available to explain what was going through his mind, so I went down the list of former defense secretaries to find out and one of them, Mel Laird, who was Nixon's Pentagon chief, answered the phone.



RAZ: Hi. Is it Secretary Laird?


RAZ: Hi. This is Guy Raz from National Public Radio. Do you have a quick moment for an interview?

LAIRD: When do you want to do that?

RAZ: If you can do it now, it would be great.

LAIRD: Well, have you got a tape recorder there?

RAZ: Sure.

LAIRD: Well, I can't do it right now. I got people here for lunch. Give me your number.

RAZ: Now, he did call back, but you'll have to wait till the end of the story to hear what he said. But back to Gates for the moment. The reason why he stayed in Washington was because senators like Ohio Republican George Voinovich and New Mexico Republican Pete Domenici and Indiana Republican Richard Lugar are making the White House very jittery. They've all broken ranks with the administration over Iraq. Here's what Lugar said recently.

RICHARD LUGAR: A course change should happen now while there is still some possibility of constructing a sustainable bipartisan strategy in Iraq.

RAZ: The beginning of a bipartisan strategy for Iraq is what could start to happen this week, and it could all end with Congress snatching the Iraq policy out of the administration's hands.

KURT CAMPBELL: I think what we're seeing is a shifting in focus and power away from one end of Pennsylvania Avenue to the other.

RAZ: This is Kurt Campbell. He's a former senior Pentagon official. He now runs the Center for a New American Security. Campbell is watching a lot of C-SPAN this week because the Senate is spending a lot of time debating Iraq this week. The debate is supposed to be about the Pentagon's budget for next year. But what it's really about are the amendments on Iraq. Senators are proposing literally dozens of amendments that could be attached to the budget - amendments that limit the time troops can be deployed. There's one that sets the clock to start pulling most troops out by next year, and there's another that will declare the surge strategy a failure.

CARL LEVIN: The American people gave us a mandate, and it's a mandate which we readily accept as being essential for the well-being of our nation.

RAZ: The sense on Capitol Hill is that Gates isn't a fan of keeping the surge strategy in place for much longer. One senior Hill official told me, quote, "Republicans may have to sacrifice the president and force a change in Iraq in order to soften the expected blow in the upcoming elections," which takes us back to Mel Laird - a man often compared to Secretary Robert Gates as a kind of moderating voice in the president's inner circle. It was Laird who set in motion the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Vietnam. So I asked him how he would handle Iraq policy.

LAIRD: Well, if I were secretary of defense today, first I'd get the White House out of it. And I would start announcing a program making some reduction of forces in Iraq, and we wouldn't have any more surges.

RAZ: Guy Raz, NPR News, Washington.

Copyright © 2007 NPR. All rights reserved. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at for further information.

NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by Verb8tm, Inc., an NPR contractor, and produced using a proprietary transcription process developed with NPR. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Accuracy and availability may vary. The authoritative record of NPR’s programming is the audio record.