Race An Issue That Simmers In Florida Battleground The economy is the central issue in this fall's campaign. But when you talk with people in Hillsborough County, a key swing area that includes Tampa, they link the economy to other issues, including race. In the diverse county, residents see race affecting them in different ways.

Race An Issue That Simmers In Florida Battleground

  • Download
  • <iframe src="https://www.npr.org/player/embed/158111211/158286690" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player">
  • Transcript


In Hillsborough County, Florida, in an area called Lutz, at a trailer park near the corner of First and Main, Gregory Brown sticks the key into the motorcycle he has for sale.


INSKEEP: Gregory Brown is a glazier. He installs plate-glass windows in high-rise buildings - or he did, when he had work. Now he's living on unemployment checks, plus a disability check from the woman who lives with him - still not quite enough to pay the bills, which is why he's selling the motorcycle for $4,000.

GREGORY BROWN: That $4,000 will probably carry me through the next two months in bills. And after that, I don't know what I'm going to do.

INSKEEP: Brown is one of dozens of people we met as we began our series First and Main. We're visiting Americans in key counties in this election year. In this place, Hillsborough County, the economy is recovering more slowly than in the rest of the country.

BROWN: I've never been more broke in my life.

INSKEEP: And in his free time, Gregory Brown has been following politics. He's been listening to Rush Limbaugh, and says he intends to register to vote this fall. He blames President Obama for his economic trouble. And as we talk, Brown brings up the president's onetime minister, Jeremiah Wright.

BROWN: I know what I believe in, and I believe that Jesus Christ spilled his blood for my soul, and Reverend Wright doesn't believe that. He believes that white people are evil, and so does our president, and so does his wife.

INSKEEP: You think that the president believes that white people are evil?

BROWN: Yes. I believe that if you go to a church long enough and you hear that kind of rhetoric, after a while, it gets into your soul.

INSKEEP: It's been years since Obama denounced his former pastor's remarks attacking the United States, but the controversial Reverend Wright is still on Gregory Brown's mind today.

The economy is the central issue in this fall's campaign. But when you talk with people in Hillsborough County, they link the economy to other issues, ranging from health care to public safety to their children's future to race.

That last subject affects voters in different ways in this county of close to 1.3 million people. We drove through parts of it with Susan MacManus, a Florida political scientist.

So we've just crossed the county line into Hillsborough County. It all spreads out in front of us. We're a good distance from Tampa here. What's this county like?

SUSAN MCMANUS: Hillsborough County is extremely diverse. It's why a lot of the political ads are tested here. A lot of focus groups are done in Hillsborough County, because of all the counties in Florida, it's considered the bellwether county for a lot of reasons. First, its racial and ethnic makeup mirror the states at large. And, of course, it has the three key geographies of politics: very rural areas, suburban areas and, of course, downtown Tampa, the urban core.

INSKEEP: And the county has a wide range of opinions, as we heard moving away from First and Main and the suburbs and toward that urban core. Tampa has a substantial Hispanic and African-American population.

So we're walking through downtown Tampa - not far, by the way, from where the Republican National Convention will be held in a few weeks. And we're approaching St. Paul's AME Church - beautiful, old brick structure with stained-glass windows, although it's not a church anymore, which is one more story that tells you something about Tampa and about Hillsborough County right now.


INSKEEP: OK. Let's head in this gate here at the side of the building.


INSKEEP: We step into a courtyard by the church and spy three people next to a fountain.



INSKEEP: I am looking for Joselyn...


INSKEEP: That's you. OK.

Joselyn Walker-Saffore attended this church for decades, as did Robert "Pete" Edwards, who brought along his two-and-a-half-year-old grandson.

PETE EDWARDS: This is the last baby baptized at St. Paul's.

INSKEEP: The last baby baptized in St. Paul's.

EDWARDS: Michael Christian Bailey.

INSKEEP: We walk into the old sanctuary, with its high wooden ceiling. Michael runs off to play while the grown-ups talk.

WALKER-SAFFORE: This church - they called it a big-hat church, because your hat and your purse and your shoes all matched - this was the church to belong to if you thought you were or wanted to be somebody in the city of Tampa.

INSKEEP: Joselyn worked for many years as the secretary of this church, a center of Tampa's black community.

WALKER-SAFFORE: Some of the speakers that we've had at this church: Reverend Jesse Jackson, President Bill Clinton, Thurgood Marshall.

INSKEEP: But in recent years, the congregation dwindled, and the church had to close. The building became the community center for a nearby apartment building - which, in a way, was a sign of racial progress. The black middle class that once gathered here spread to other communities as racial segregation declined. Recently, however, Joselyn Walker-Saffore says the middle class has been suffering.

WALKER-SAFFORE: I have a daughter, and she was an insurance adjuster. She was laid off, and she's been laid off since March. And, you know, you search and search and can't find anything. I have another friend that's recently been laid off after 10 years with the city. So, you know, it just seems to be rampant. And I have so many friends who are looking for jobs, and there's no jobs.

INSKEEP: No jobs even for people with college degrees.

WALKER-SAFFORE: For me, as a black person, it's always been hard. So it is hard, but I think the playing field has been leveled a little bit. So that's why people are more concerned.

INSKEEP: I want to put this in my own words, make sure I understand what you're saying: Nationally, the black unemployment rate has always been higher than the white unemployment rate, but at the same time, there's been a black middle class - the very kind of people who built this church. It sounds like you're telling me even the black middle class is feeling that kind of pain now.

WALKER-SAFFORE: Correct, correct.

INSKEEP: And here in the former black church, President Obama does not escape criticism. Pete Edwards is a registered Republican who argues that the president has not done much for the black community.

EDWARDS: When you look at the way he has avoided addressing any major issues in the Afro-American community, and that tells me two things: One, he's really, in my opinion, not in tune to it, and two, even if he gets elected for the second term, you still won't see that much significant change to it.

INSKEEP: This onetime voter for George W. Bush will vote for President Obama this fall, but he says that's only because he's unimpressed with Mitt Romney.

Joselyn, he sounds kind of frustrated with the president. What are you thinking about his performance?

WALKER-SAFFORE: For me, I feel like he was dealt a bad hand. Like you say, you can't pick your family members, but you can choose your friends. He didn't pick the situation he was elected to. He inherited it. So, I think we need to kind of let him keep working a little bit longer to see what happens.

INSKEEP: Her deeper concerns are closer to home. We are in the state where a black teenager was shot this year by a neighborhood watch volunteer.

WALKER-SAFFORE: I have four adult children, and I have 11 super-children. I don't like that word that starts with G-R-A.

INSKEEP: Oh. Because it makes you sound older than you look. Yeah.

WALKER-SAFFORE: Ooh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

INSKEEP: So how are you feeling right now about the world that your super-children will inherit?

WALKER-SAFFORE: You know, it's scary, especially a parent of black male children. Like the Trayvon Martin situation - I mean, so you are concerned with the way things are going and their possibilities for life as they grow older.

INSKEEP: She's thinking of the next generation - of kids like Michael, who's now playing in the former sanctuary of this church in the swiftly changing city of Tampa, Florida.


INSKEEP: Our series First and Main continues tomorrow as we meet the Florida man who serves strawberry milkshakes to the stars - or at least to the presidential candidates. This is NPR News.

Copyright © 2012 NPR. All rights reserved. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information.

NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Accuracy and availability may vary. The authoritative record of NPR’s programming is the audio record.