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Blending Red Wine With Porter Ale: A Crossover Beer Worth The Buzz?

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For beer drinkers, there's an explosion of choices out there - what with the boom in craft brewing. Besides the Pale Ales and Stouts, there are now dry hopped double brown ales - even chocolate and fruit infused beers.

NPR's Allison Aubrey has this morning last word in business. Actually, a bunch of words, on yet another frontier in the world of brewing.

ALLISON AUBREY, BYLINE: Like a lot of couples, John Voorhees and Alicia Boyce do not have the same preferences when it comes to drinks with dinner. Alicia tends towards wine. John's more of a beer guy.

JOHN VOORHEES: Usually she encourages me on wine anyways.

AUBREY: But when they sat down to dinner recently at a restaurant in D.C. called The Red Hen, they were intrigued to be offered a drink neither of them had ever heard of. It's best described as a wine-beer mash up.

VOORHEES: This could be a good combination, you like wine, I like beer, so this could be, this could be it.

AUBREY: Bartender Victor Dooley Red pours the drink.

VICTOR DOOLEY: We serve it in a wine glass, kind of to remind people that's the whole idea - the whole, there's a touch of wine.

AUBREY: And as he pulls back the tap, what streams into the glass looks like just a just a dark ale, it's foamy and deep brown.

But what else is in there?

DOOLEY: It's almost like a hidden secret.

AUBREY: That secret? A red wine grape slurry called lees. It's basically the stuff that falls to the bottom of the barrel during the fermenting process. It's bits of grape skin and seed fragments, dead yeast cells.

And Red Hen owner Sebastian Zutant says blending it with beer creates a completely novel taste.

SEBASTIAN ZUTANT: It has a really distinct, kind of, like red wine characteristic as well as a beer characteristic. It has this like really kind of like rustic, pruney(ph), kind of like dried cranberry. It's cool stuff, it's weird stuff, it's funky stuff, but I think it works.

AUBREY: Sebastian says what sparked his interest in this wine-beer cross-over, is that he was talking to some friends in the local wine industry and they told him that they usually just toss out the wine lees. It's considered a waste product.

So he approached another friend, Jeff Hancock, who owns a local brewery called DC Brau. And, as the saying goes, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

JEFF HANCOCK: What we are looking at right now - that's the active brewing down in the brew house.

AUBREY: The brewery looks like a cross between a garage and a warehouse, and it is filled with steam.

It's like a vapor of bear.

HANCOCK: Right. Yeah. Unfortunately, since we have neighbors above us, we're in a basement unit, we weren't able to vent the steam outside. Traditionally, that is what you would have.

AUBREY: So they've just gotten used to all this aromatic steam, and for now it, kind of, adds to the charm.

HANCOCK: And now I think you can start to smell the hops a little bit.

AUBREY: What's in the tank is a porter ale. Now usually the process ends here. But for this new cross-over, the partners take the wine lees they get from two vineyards in Virginia and blend them with the beer.

So as the mist of hoppy steam drifts to the back of the brew house, we go to a wall that is stacked with old wine barrels. This is where the wine-beer fusion takes place.

The wine lees is a viscous, almost like cough-syrup.

HANCOCK: We are pouring the lees through a funnel into the top of the barrel.

AUBREY: This thick slurry is unappealing to the eye. But it's the taste Hancock is focused on. He's looking to pull the red wine tannins that give complex flavor out of the wine lees and into his beer.

HANCOCK: When you add it to the barrel and mix it to the beers, it creates a really, really unique flavor profile.

AUBREY: Back at The Red Hen, Sebastian Zutant says he's been serving this a few months, and customers seem to like it.

ZUTANT: It was definitely a crap shoot. We definitely rolled the dice and it seemed to work out quite nicely.

AUBREY: John Voorhees and Alicia Boyce are about to take their first sip.

ALICIA BOYCE: It smells like an old barn.


AUBREY: But then, she tastes it.

BOYCE: It's different. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean it's good.

AUBREY: And john's response.?

VOORHEES: I'm sold. Yeah. I would, you know, truly wine and beer together - right from the first taste.

AUBREY: It's the novelty that people seem to respond to. And DC Brau's Jeff Hancock says that's exactly what he's going for. With more than 2,400 breweries across the country now, the competition is tough.

HANCOCK: The further the competition grows, the further you have to distinguish yourself.

AUBREY: And like the owners of The Red Hen and DC Brau, Brewers from Colorado to Delaware are experimenting with all sorts of barrel aging and wine-beer combinations, fusing two of humankind's oldest beverages into one.

Allison Aubrey, NPR News.


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