Questlove And The Roots: How A Hip-Hop Band Conquered Late Night "It's strange to admit it, but this is kinda the job we were born for," Questlove says of his group's serving as house band for The Tonight Show.
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Questlove And The Roots: How A Hip-Hop Band Conquered Late Night

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Jimmy Fallon has a not-so-secret weapon on "The Tonight Show" - the band The Roots. Drummer and band leader Ahmir Questlove Thompson says music is a crucial part of the program. NPR TV critic Eric Deggans paid a visit to the show to see how that plays out.

ERIC DEGGANS, BYLINE: For the first time, a hip-hop group is the house band for the most influential TV show in late-night.


UNIDENTIFIED ANNOUNCER: From Studio 60 in Rockefeller Center at the heart of New York City, it's "The Tonight Show," starring Jimmy Fallon.

THE ROOTS: (Singing) Hey, hey, hey, hey.

DEGGANS: And you can chalk up much of The Roots success to the relaxed perfectionism of the band's leader, Questlove. When I first meet him, he's in a mixing room with the sound engineer at "The Tonight Show's" Rockefeller Center Studios.


ROOTS: (Singing) Close your eyes...

DEGGANS: This is like watching Rembrandt splash paint on a canvas.

AHMIR QUESTLOVE THOMPSON: I'm listening to the mix 'cause we're the musical guest tonight.

DEGGANS: He's listening to a recording of the band rehearsing its new single, "Never."

THOMPSON: If you do this now, then it's not a big deal tonight, after we perform it.

DEGGANS: The show's engineer is learning the band's sound before they play on camera that evening. And Questlove catches everything, including the thin tone of a woodblock.

THOMPSON: Yeah. I don't mean louder, but is there, like, a thicker texture?

DEGGANS: This detail-oriented artistry has played off well for Questlove and The Roots.

THOMPSON: Yeah, that sort of...

DEGGANS: The Roots are the last band you might expect to take over a late-night TV institution. They came together in the late 1980s, and quickly emerged as critics' favorites. But some hip-hop fans saw them as quirky outsiders for their musicianship and brainy creativity. Five years ago, when Fallon started hosting NBC's "Late Night," he specifically picked The Roots for his house band. But the network's suits weren't so sure.

THOMPSON: Feelings at NBC were sort of like, OK, we know that they're a good rap group. But what if we have Tom T. Hall on the show? Do they have range?

DEGGANS: Can they play country or classical? NBC's solution - a 13 week probation so they could quietly fire them if it didn't work out.

THOMPSON: And they were, like, throwing crazy stuff at us. They'd come in and be like, you guys got three minutes to come up with an Andrew Lloyd Webber reference for da da da da da da - three minutes. And that's how the game Free Styling with The Roots was invented.

DEGGANS: Free Styling with The Roots is their version of Johnny Carson's old Stump the Band contest.

THOMPSON: And once we did it, then they threw that - they were like, oh, no. You guys are ours forever. Like, you know, forget that 13-week meeting thing.

DEGGANS: That test also revealed The Roots' unexpected talent for creating viral videos. They reinvented a sexy, controversial hit with kiddy instruments.


ROOTS: (Singing) Hey, hey, hey. And that's why I'm going to take a good girl.

DEGGANS: And slow-jammed the news, even with the leader of the free world.


PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Jimmy, POTUS stands for President Of The United States.

THE ROOT: (Singing) He's the POTUS with the most-us.

DEGGANS: And when Jimmy Fallon moved up from "Late Night" to take over "The Tonight Show" in February, music stayed at the center of the action.

THOMPSON: Because for starters, Jimmy is a musician. He's a legitimate singer and guitarist. This show is really a variety show disguised as a talk show.

DEGGANS: As we're hanging out in the band's tiny rehearsal studio, one of the show's writers stops by to ask for some on-the-spot creativity. In a couple of days, Will Ferrell will be a guest of the show, and so will his look-alike, Chad Smith, drummer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They want to have a drum battle, but Ferrell doesn't really play drums.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Yeah. Chad's going to be drumming himself, for sure. Will is going to be miming drums to you.


MAN: So what I was going to is if we could make, like...

THOMPSON: A dummy track for him to practice to?

MAN: Exactly.

DEGGANS: Questlove is going to work up a simple drum solo Will Ferrell can pretend to play on camera. First he looks up a few drum solos on YouTube for inspiration.


THOMPSON: I want something that looks convincing.

DEGGANS: Then he sits behind small drum kit and tries out ideas.


DEGGANS: On the show, Questlove makes Will Ferrell sound like Buddy Rich.


WILL FERRELL: (Playing Drums). I just blew my mind.


THOMPSON: It's strange to admit it, but this is kind of the job that we were born for.

DEGGANS: People who have admired the band's cool, creative artistry did not always agree.

THOMPSON: Once gawkers said, The Roots in this position is like watching Miles Davis busk for change in the New York subway system. We wanted to be underestimated so that you could over-exceed expectations.

DEGGANS: The success of Questlove and The Roots on "The Tonight Show" is a tale of triumph. The quirkiest band in hip-hop kept its cool and conquered the biggest institution in late-night TV. I'm Eric Deggans.


ROOTS: (Singing) I'm going with the wind and I'm going for the ride. Wish I could rest and open my eyes. But time ain't fit to fly down from the sky. The place where the lonely love - not another soul, there's only us.


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