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Farmers Fear Legal Status For Workers Would Lead Them Off The Farm

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Farmers Fear Legal Status For Workers Would Lead Them Off The Farm

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The battle over immigration touches all of us in one very direct way, food. That salad mix from California or those apples from Washington State may well have been harvested by workers who arrived here in the U.S. illegally. And the farmers who employ those workers are deeply ambivalent about that. NPR's Dan Charles explains why.

DAN CHARLES, BYLINE: No one in America has a better view of immigration in all its complexity than the people who grow our food. Steve Patricio, president of Westside Produce, a big melon packer in California's Central Valley, says this is what it's like hiring workers.

STEVE PATRICIO: They present us with bona fide documents that show them as a legal worker. Do I believe they're 100 percent correct? No.

CHARLES: Patricio is frustrated with federal immigration policies that make life difficult for those workers. That's partly self-interest. He needs them. But it's mixed with a lot of human sympathy.

PATRICIO: They're just trying to feed their families. And to punish people for seeking a better life that we hold out as our mantra throughout the world is wrong.

CHARLES: So one part of Patricio was happy last fall when President Obama promised more protection for hundreds of thousands of farm workers, those who have children who are U.S. citizens, for instance. This is the executive action that a federal judge has halted, at least for now. But Patricio also has another reaction. He says giving more legal rights to those workers is probably bad for him because he thinks some of those workers are in those jobs because it's a good place to hide from the authorities.

PATRICIO: That pressure's off. Now they can go to the cities and look for construction jobs or manufacturing jobs.

CHARLES: In the late 1980s, millions of immigrants gained legal status. Patricio believes that as a result, many left agriculture. But back then, the border was more porous than it is now and employers were able to turn to a fresh wave of immigrants. That flow has now slowed to a trickle, and Patricio says it's created a real shortage of farm workers. I heard the same argument from other farmers, too. Here's Manuel Cunha Jr., president of the Nisei Farmers League based in Fresno.

MANUEL CUNHA JR.: Those folks are going to go find full-time jobs because now they're safe, and I have nothing to replace them - nothing.

CHARLES: So it sounds like, I mean, from your point of view, the only thing that works is allow people to come across the border, but they shouldn't become citizens.

CUNHA: You hit it right on. You got the point.

CHARLES: Cunha wants to resurrect that stream of new workers with a guest worker program. It would bring in foreign workers just for the seasons when they're most needed. But then I talked to some workers who'd benefit from the Obama plan. And they told me they're planning to keep their farm jobs.

LORENA HERNANDEZ: (Speaking Spanish).

CHARLES: I met Lorena Hernandez outside her home near the railroad tracks that run through the city of Madera. Her 7-year-old daughter was running around full of energy. Because of that daughter who was born in the U.S., Hernandez and her husband would be covered by the Obama administration's so-called executive action. If it went into effect, she'd be able to work legally, at least for the next two years. We talked before the recent court decision that put this on hold. So when we talked, it looked like Hernandez would be getting a real Social Security card. It would change a lot of things for her, she said, but not her job.

HERNANDEZ: (Through interpreter) Regardless, though, I'm going to still going to be working in the fields. And I like it.

CHARLES: Do you know other people who are in the same situation?

HERNANDEZ: (Speaking Spanish).

CHARLES: And what do they think?

HERNANDEZ: (Through interpreter) Yeah, I mean, no, I was talking to them about it, and it seems like they're not interested in any other work. They're just interested in working in the fields.

CHARLES: Rick Mines, who ran a national survey of farm workers for the Department of Labor during the 1980s and '90s, says what I'm hearing from Hernandez is consistent with his data. Many farm workers do leave agriculture, and many employers believe legalization is the reason. But really, Mines says, they leave for other reasons.

RICK MINES: Those farm workers leave because they can't make a living at it. Whether or not they're legal is not that relevant.

CHARLES: Mines also does not think much of a guest worker program, which farm employers had been pushing in Congress without success. Such programs have been criticized for abusing workers in the past, and Mines says many of the workers end up staying in the country illegally. Mines says farmers just have to adapt to the closed border and compete for the workers who are here, maybe pay them more, change farming operations so workers have jobs year-round. Farmers have done some of that, farmers like Tom Willey.

TOM WILLEY: (Speaking Spanish).

CHARLES: Willey is one of the pioneers of organic farming in California. He's getting up in years now. His big beard has turned white.

WILLEY: So this is our red potato crop. We're just finishing digging.

CHARLES: They grow a huge variety of vegetables here, and Willey does this in part so he can hire people year-round full-time. It creates a more stable, cohesive team.

WILLEY: You're creating that sense of community in which people feel like they're working in a non-coercive environment is something that I focus a great deal on.

CHARLES: But Willey doesn't pretend he solved all the problems. The fact is, I can't pay you very much, he says. As it is, 70 percent of my farm's revenue goes to paying the workers. And we're competing with other farms, not just in California but also in Mexico and Central America, where workers earn even less. We may be allowing fewer people across the border, he points out, but imports of vegetables from Mexico, they're way up. Dan Charles, NPR News.

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