With Leak Of 'Panama Papers,' A Glimpse Of World's Fiscal Underbelly Over 11 million records have been leaked from a law firm based in Panama, shedding light on the flow of dark money in the global financial system. Reporter Jake Bernstein explains what was revealed.
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With Leak Of 'Panama Papers,' A Glimpse Of World's Fiscal Underbelly

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With Leak Of 'Panama Papers,' A Glimpse Of World's Fiscal Underbelly

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MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:

Let's turn now to the most interesting law firm you've never heard of. Mossack Fonseca is based in Panama. But its clients move in international art circles, in Africa's diamond trade, on yachts sailing the Mediterranean and along the corridors of the Kremlin. A massive leak - more than 11 million records from the law firm's files is shedding light on how dark money flows through the global financial system. The records also are shedding light on offshore holdings of a dozen former and current world leaders.

Jake Bernstein is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter with International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. The group has spearheaded a year-long investigation at dozens of news organizations into these leaked documents. And Jake Bernstein, first off - I've got to ask - how did you get the documents?

JAKE BERNSTEIN: This came through a German newspaper called Suddeutsche Zeitung. And they're the ones who obtained this extraordinary leak. It's more than 11 million documents that allows us a view into a secret world of hidden money that we've never seen before.

KELLY: OK. Tell us some of the highlights of what you found. What was the most surprising thing?

BERNSTEIN: Well, we found the financial holdings of 12 current and former world leaders, 128 public officials, 33 companies and people sanctioned by the United States because of evidence that they've done business with Mexican drug lords or terrorist organizations or rogue nations like North Korea or Iran. We found a network that's connected to Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, that seems to have moved around $2 billion through a network of banks and secret offshore companies.

KELLY: We should note there's nothing illegal about having an offshore company, about using offshore accounts. Take, say, with the Putin example for a moment, what is the takeaway here for what you found with these Russian accounts?

BERNSTEIN: You know, there's a whole group of people around President Putin who have become incredibly wealthy during his tenure. And the U.S. Treasury Department has called it a corrupt regime. And they've sanctioned a number of these people. But they've never really provided evidence about their activities. And for the first time, we get to see some of that evidence.

KELLY: OK, circle back to the law firm at the center of this web, Mossack Fonseca. I said that it's based in Panama. What else do we know about oy?

BERNSTEIN: It's one of the top-five incorporators of offshore companies in the world. These are the companies that can be used to hide ownership of assets. And most people wouldn't know about it because generally when they are big scandals, they don't really focus on the middlemen. But, for example, right now there's a big scandal in Brazil that has touched the president, the former president. It could be one of the biggest corruption scandals in Latin American history. And Mossack Fonseca is right in the middle of it. And Brazilian prosecutors have called it a money laundering machine.

KELLY: What does Mossack Fonseca say when you have put these questions to them about the revelations coming up through records leaked from their firm?

BERNSTEIN: Well, they say they just create the companies. The analogy they like to use is that they're a car factory, and they aren't responsible once the car leaves the factory. But what's clear from the records is that their involvement continues during the life of the company.

I mean, they create sham directors and officers of these companies who then have to sign official documents like bank account openings. And we also know that Mossack Fonseca has legal responsibilities to know their customers and their activities. And it seems clear that they're not really living up to those responsibilities.

KELLY: Just to be absolutely clear, Jake Bernstein, because it's easy to make something sound shady. In fact, all kinds of tax attorneys advise their clients regularly to do the absolutely legal thing of put money in various offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes. What did you actually find in terms of evidence of laws being broken?

BERNSTEIN: You're absolute right. And I would guess that many, if not even most of the clients at Mossack Fonseca are law-abiding. What we see though is a huge number of convicted criminals where there's supposed to be more due diligence, where it's clear that people have already committed crimes and they have used these offshore companies either to commit them or to hide the proceeds.

KELLY: Jake Bernstein of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. Their new report examines the offshore accounts and tax havens used by everyone from criminals to heads of state. Thanks so much for speaking with us.

BERNSTEIN: No, thank you for having me.

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