LULU GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:
And it's time to play The Puzzle.
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GARCIA-NAVARRO: Joining us is Will Shortz. He's puzzle editor of The New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzlemaster. Hi, Will.
WILL SHORTZ, BYLINE: Hey there, Lulu.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Remind us of last week's challenge.
SHORTZ: Yeah, it was a straightforward one. I said name two tasty things to eat - each in eight letters - in which the only consonants are L and P. And the answers are lollipop and apple pie.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: (Laughter) We received 2,258 correct responses, and the winner this week is Denise Kale of Santa Barbara, Calif.
DENISE KALE: Thank you so much.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: So how did you solve it?
KALE: Actually, lollipop just came to me. Well, I was still listening to the rest of the news that morning. And then I wrote it down - and then pie. I thought, oh, pie is tasty. And then, frankly, the next day, apple popped into my head. And there it was.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: And there it was. All good inspirations come from that. What do you do?
KALE: So I'm a lawyer. I'm in-house counsel for a tech company in Santa Barbara.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Fantastic. Well, Santa Barbara's so beautiful. Denise, are you ready to play The Puzzle?
KALE: I'm as ready as I will ever be. Yes. So yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: (Laugher) All right. Take it away, Will.
SHORTZ: OK, Denise, every answer today is a familiar phrase in the form blank to the blank. I'll give you the first word of the phrase. You tell me the end. For example, if I said play, you would say gallery as in play to the gallery.
SHORTZ: Now, your first answers here are all four letters long. Your first one is word - W-O-R-D. Word to the...
KALE: Word to the wise.
SHORTZ: Word to the wise is it. Number two is key - K-E-Y.
KALE: Key to the door?
SHORTZ: Oh, what about if you're a very honored person, you might receive this?
KALE: Oh, key to the city.
SHORTZ: Key to the city is it. Exception.
KALE: Exception to the rule.
SHORTZ: There you go. Talk. Your next one is talk.
KALE: Boy, talk to the bank. Talk to the house. Talk to the...
SHORTZ: If you're speaking to someone and they don't want to hear you, they say, talk to the...
GARCIA-NAVARRO: It's a body part.
KALE: I am drawing a total blank.
SHORTZ: All right. I'll just tell you that one. It's talk to the hand.
KALE: Oh, I'm not familiar with that phrase.
SHORTZ: You know, you're talking to someone, and they don't want to hear you. They hold their palm up and say, talk to the hand.
KALE: Oh, OK.
SHORTZ: Here's your next one.
KALE: Thank you.
SHORTZ: The next answers are all five letters long.
SHORTZ: Cut. Cut.
KALE: Cut to the chase.
SHORTZ: That's it. Also cut to the quick. Either one works. Off.
KALE: Off the cuff. Off the...
SHORTZ: Off to the...
KALE: Oh, off - oh, yes. Off to the races.
SHORTZ: Off to the races, good. Hail, hail - H-A-I-L.
KALE: Hail to the chief.
SHORTZ: That's it. Try this one. Pedal - P-E-D-A-L.
KALE: Pedal to the metal.
SHORTZ: That's it. Dressed.
KALE: Dressed - oh, dressed to the nines.
SHORTZ: That's it. Preach.
KALE: Preach to the choir.
SHORTZ: That's it. Now six letter answers. Back.
KALE: OK, back to the...
GARCIA-NAVARRO: It's a movie in the '80s.
KALE: Oh, future.
SHORTZ: "Back To The Future." Heir - H-E-I-R.
KALE: Heir - heir to the throne.
SHORTZ: Heir to the throne is it, good. Your next answers are all eight letters or more. Rise.
KALE: Rise to the occasion.
SHORTZ: Right. Nose - N-O-S-E.
KALE: Nose to the grindstone. No, that's too many letters. Nose to the...
SHORTZ: That's it.
KALE: Oh, it is.
SHORTZ: No, that's exactly it.
SHORTZ: Your last answers have more than one word, and the first of these is good.
KALE: Good to the last drop.
SHORTZ: That's it. And your last one is journey.
KALE: Journey, journey to the...
SHORTZ: Yeah, famous novel, science fiction, Jules Verne.
KALE: I've never read science fiction.
SHORTZ: All right, well, I'll tell you the last one. It's "Journey To The Center Of The Earth."
KALE: Oh, OK.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Great job. How do you feel?
KALE: (Laughter) Well, OK. So I'm a little light on some phrases, but I'm all the wiser now.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: You did really well. And for playing our puzzle today, you'll get a WEEKEND EDITION lapel pin, as well as puzzle books and games. You can read all about it at npr.org/puzzle. And, Denise, which member station do you listen to?
KALE: I listen to KCLU out of Thousand Oaks, Calif.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: That's Denise Kale of Santa Barbara, Calif. Thank you for playing The Puzzle.
KALE: Thank you so very much.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: All right. Will, what's next week's challenge?
SHORTZ: Yes, it comes from listener Dominick Talvacchio (ph) of Chicago. Think of an informal term for a beverage. Now say it in pig Latin, and you'll have an informal term for another beverage. What two beverages are these? So, again, an informal term for a beverage. Say it in pig Latin, and you'll have an informal term for another beverage. What two beverages are these?
GARCIA-NAVARRO: When you have the answer, go to our website npr.org/puzzle and click on the Submit Your Answer link. Remember, just one entry per person, please. Our deadline for entries is Thursday, October 17 at 3 p.m. Eastern. Include a phone number where we can reach you about that time. And if you're the winner, we'll give you a call, and you'll get to play on the air with the puzzle editor of The New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzlemaster, Will Shortz. Thanks so much, Will.
SHORTZ: Thanks, Lulu.
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