Celebrity Cocktail Hour Not to be confused with Pop Culture Happy Hour. Busy Philipps and Shantira Jackson mash up the names of mixed drinks and celebrities.
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Celebrity Cocktail Hour

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You know what? I want to see what Jonathan Coulton's doing right now.



EISENBERG: Hi, Jonathan Coulton. This is host of NPR's ASK ME ANOTHER Ophira Eisenberg checking in.


COULTON: Yes, I know. That's why I said, hello, Ophira.



EISENBERG: I'm just thinking about you. What are you up to these days?

COULTON: I'm up to about 10, 12 pounds over my standard weight. That's what I'm up to.

EISENBERG: Oh, this is where we're at.

COULTON: I have taken the strategy of eating whatever I want...


COULTON: ...And drinking whenever I want.


COULTON: And it has not worked out so well for me in the weight department. And so I have just - as they say, diet starts Monday. Just this week, I started taking note of what I eat. So this is a very small step...

EISENBERG: (Laughter) No, that's huge.

COULTON: ...That I have taken.

EISENBERG: The first step is to acknowledge...


EISENBERG: ...To notice.

COULTON: And it's - frankly, it's a nightmare. Once you start...

EISENBERG: OK. Oh, yeah.

COULTON: (Laughter) Once I started taking note, I'm like, oh, no wonder.

EISENBERG: Well, I have to say, I too have just allowed myself to eat whatever I want and drink whatever I want.

COULTON: It's - well, there's a hole inside, and it needs to be filled with something.

EISENBERG: (Laughter) Like, I'm a fast eater anyways. But I sit down for dinner, and it's, like, gone.

COULTON: (Laughter).

EISENBERG: Like, my husband's picking up his fork to take his first bite, and I'm, like, oh, that was good.


COULTON: When you grew up, you grew up with a lot of brothers and sisters, right?

EISENBERG: Yeah, but this is Olympic-level.

COULTON: (Laughter).

EISENBERG: So have you already logged this stuff in?

COULTON: I've started - I've just started logging, yeah.


COULTON: I've just started logging, and I'm doing OK. You want to know what it was today?


COULTON: Let's see what it was today. Where's my phone?

EISENBERG: Yeah, read it.

COULTON: Here we go (laughter). So this morning - coffee.


COULTON: That's free.

EISENBERG: That's zero, zero, zero. I mean...

COULTON: That's nothing.

EISENBERG: Wait a second. Do you have milk in that coffee?

COULTON: Well, yeah, that's the thing - is I put half and half in my coffee. No, I counted it.


COULTON: So I probably had four - I don't know - four tablespoons of half and half.


COULTON: Oh, boy. I'm already feeling guilty.

EISENBERG: (Laughter).

COULTON: So that's my breakfast - is 80 calories for four tablespoons of half and half. That was breakfast (laughter).

EISENBERG: Why don't you just put a scoop of ice cream - just a scoop of ice cream right into that coffee?


COULTON: I mean, that's delicious. Lunch - homemade white chicken chili with northern beans.

EISENBERG: Oh, that's - sounds good.

COULTON: Cup and a half of that. Twelve rainbow baby carrots (laughter).


COULTON: Twelve.

EISENBERG: You sound like a model.

COULTON: Well, I still wanted to put something in my mouth.


COULTON: And that's exactly the moment where, like, I would have a meal and then I'd be like, oh, maybe I'll also have a hot dog, you know?

EISENBERG: Right. Right.

COULTON: Which is dumb.

EISENBERG: As your dessert (laughter).

COULTON: That's right (laughter). And then I just ate an apple, which I haven't logged yet. But I'm going to log that.

EISENBERG: OK, log that apple. Get that in there. I don't want you to forget. But then a theme song? Burn a few calories with a theme song?

COULTON: (Laughter) Yeah, that's a good idea. A little work - a little theme song workout. Here we go.


COULTON: From NPR and WNYC, coming to you from our respective homes in beautiful Brooklyn, New York, it's NPR's hour of puzzles, word games and 95-calorie fruits - ASK ME ANOTHER. I'm Jonathan Coulton. Now here's your host, Ophira Eisenberg.


EISENBERG: Thank you, Jonathan. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. This week on the show, we have the founder of the Wu-Tang Clan, RZA. That's right. And you know what? We play a game with him that nobody else has the guts to play. It's called Is It a Lizard? Also on the show, cartoonist and creator of Hulu's "Woke," Keith Knight battles his twin sister in an unexpected second round of "Brady Bunch" trivia.

And we're kicking things off with two truly wonderful friend-testants (ph), the host of the talk show "Busy Tonight" and the podcast "Busy Philipps Is Doing Her Best," Busy Philipps, and comedy writer Shantira Jackson, who used to write for this very show before she left us to work for Busy. And you know what? She never calls. She never writes. We had to book her on this show just to find out how she's doing.


EISENBERG: It's so nice to see you again, Shantira. It's been a while.

SHANTIRA JACKSON: Hello. It's been a while.


JACKSON: It's been the two years since I left New York (laughter).

BUSY PHILIPPS: I know - crazy.

EISENBERG: And, Busy, so nice to meet you. I will say that I was like, what am I going to say (laughter) I like you from? Then I was like, oh, everything?


PHILIPPS: Oh, thank you. That's so nice.

EISENBERG: I feel like everything you've done is, like, one of the things that I love the most.



EISENBERG: Well, I was going to say - so, you know, you recently started a podcast. It's called "Busy Philipps Is Doing Her Best."


EISENBERG: Shantira is a huge part of that podcast.

PHILIPPS: She is, thankfully.

JACKSON: Yes. It's very fun.

PHILIPPS: (Laughter).

EISENBERG: So you interview celebrities and people of note and just talk about how people are pivoting and doing their best. And it is very timely to now, but you started this podcast before.

PHILIPPS: Well, I feel like we sold it almost a year ago.


PHILIPPS: I think it was October of last year. You know, basically, we had a whole idea for a new way of doing things and making stuff. And we were working on this really big project that had a lot of moving parts. And we had, like, our big meeting with all of these money people in New York that was scheduled for March 16.


COULTON: Oh, jeez. Oh, jeez.



PHILIPPS: And that was that, you know? And so I - we spent...


PHILIPPS: Yeah, you know, whatever. We're - I feel very blessed in my life to be a person that's able to have perspective and self-awareness. And Shantira and I had been talking a little bit during that time. Also, just, like, we've kept in touch since "Busy Tonight." And I always just loved, like, our writers room. And "Busy Tonight" was really small. It was only three writers, which for those of you at home, that's...


PHILIPPS: ...Literally insane.



JACKSON: It's very small. I think we had more writers doing ASK ME ANOTHER than (laughter) we did for "Busy Tonight" (laughter).

COULTON: Probably true.

EISENBERG: But just to be clear, they were being paid less.


JACKSON: Absolutely. This is true. I was paid less.

PHILIPPS: Well, you know, I mean, no one was making a ton of money...


PHILIPPS: ...Which is why it was so confusing that they canceled us 'cause I was like, guys, this show is free.



PHILIPPS: It's just crazy the shoestring that we were managing to do that, you know I feel like was a really successful...


PHILIPPS: ...Show at the, you know...

EISENBERG: But nobody uses the term, like, indie talk show. Nobody uses that term.

PHILIPPS: No, but it really was an indie talk show. That's, like, totally what it was.

JACKSON: Yeah. We definitely we should have gotten the Independent Spirit Award - 100%.


PHILIPPS: Shantira, we should have.

JACKSON: One hundred percent.

PHILIPPS: If only we could go back in time.

EISENBERG: Let's get to some games. We got to get some games, people.

JACKSON: OK, I'm excited.

EISENBERG: You want to play some games?

PHILIPPS: Wait, Ophira. Wait. Can I say one more thing, though, about the podcast before we go?


PHILIPPS: I have a theme song that I sing.

COULTON: (Laughter).

PHILIPPS: And Mr. Jonathan Coulton wrote the theme song for me.

COULTON: That is correct.

EISENBERG: How did I - how did you not tell us this?

COULTON: (Laughter).

EISENBERG: In all of our meetings, Jonathan, talking about busy and getting ready for this, you felt no need to just mention that.

COULTON: You know, I don't like to brag.


COULTON: I don't like to brag.

JACKSON: I would've told everybody.


JACKSON: I'd be bragging.

EISENBERG: I love that. Good. The full picture. OK, so your first game, you're going to work together in this one.


EISENBERG: I know. Shantira kind of knows the drill, obviously, but you're going to work together with this one. This is a word game. So those are typically on the tougher side, but it's also about famous people and alcohol.



PHILIPPS: Two things I love.

JACKSON: Yeah, let's go.

COULTON: (Laughter).


JACKSON: This is my vibe. And not even in any particular order, depending on the day.


PHILIPPS: I'll take either. Both of them lift my spirits always.


EISENBERG: Nice. So we're going to give you a cocktail recipe that describes a mash-up of a cocktail in the name of a celebrity. And you are going to give us the mash-up.

JACKSON: I'm ready. Heads up, I drink whiskey neat so I don't know if we're going to be the best at mixing. Let's go, baby.

EISENBERG: You'll be OK.

PHILIPPS: (Laughter).

EISENBERG: Here's your first one. OK. Mix rum, Curacao, orgeat and fresh lime juice and serve it to the supermodel and new host of "Dancing With The Stars," and maybe you'll get a smize out of her.

JACKSON: OK. I know it's Tyra Banks.



PHILIPPS: Rum - Mai-Tyra Banks.

JACKSON: Mai-Tyra Banks.




EISENBERG: That's right.


EISENBERG: That's right. That's right. Yeah, exciting.

PHILIPPS: I love it. That was teamwork, Shantira.


EISENBERG: That was true teamwork.

COULTON: Yeah, see?


JACKSON: I was like, OK, OK.

PHILIPPS: You know that my grandmother, my dad's mom - my parents lived in Hawaii 'cause my dad was in the Navy. And she used to like to go to the Pink Hotel. And she called them high tides...


PHILIPPS: ...And not mai tais - high tides - I think because after one, she started saying high tides.


PHILIPPS: I'll have another high tide instead of mai tai. And so I always call them high tides.

EISENBERG: High tides. That's great.

PHILIPPS: And whenever I'm in Hawaii, I go to the Pink Hotel, and I have one in her honor.


COULTON: That's very nice. Here's another cocktail celebrity mash-up. This drink is a hot mess - white rum, tequila, gin, triple sec, vodka and cola garnished with a Liz Lemon.

PHILIPPS: Garnished with a Liz Lemon.

JACKSON: A Liz Lemon. So that is Tina Fey.

COULTON: Right. This is one of those drinks that has everything in it.

EISENBERG: Yeah, they mix...


PHILIPPS: ...Tina Fey.

JACKSON: ...Iced - guys...

PHILIPPS AND JACKSON: A Long Island Iced Tina Fey.

PHILIPPS: You got it. You got it.

COULTON: That is correct.

PHILIPPS: Right. We got it. Long Island Iced Tina Fey.

COULTON: Wow, I am really enjoying watching the machine go in this game.

EISENBERG: It's so exciting. It's so exciting.

PHILIPPS: Have you ever had a Long Island Iced Tea, Shantira?

JACKSON: Yes. I'm from Florida.


PHILIPPS: Sometimes, I forget. Sometimes, I forget.

JACKSON: I went to a public university in Florida.


JACKSON: I - that's the first thing I drank.


JACKSON: Tallahassee in the house, baby. Tallahassee in the house.


EISENBERG: All right. Here you go. Mix white rum with muddled mint, lime juice, simple syrup and club soda, and you'll get a refreshing drink that's perfect after a long day of skateboarding in the X Games.

PHILIPPS: Tony Hawk? It's muddled rum...

JACKSON: Mojito?

PHILIPPS: A Tony - wait. Mojito...

JACKSON: It's Moji-Tony Hawk.


PHILIPPS: Oh my God, you did that. You did it. You did it.

EISENBERG: That was beautiful.

PHILIPPS: Moji-Tony Hawk.

EISENBERG: That was beautiful.

PHILIPPS: I'm like, I got the two things. I know the drink and the celebrity. But for some reason, my brain stopped there.

JACKSON: I couldn't get either of - I was like, I love skateboarding, too. I was like, who do I know who's famous? I'm sorry, Tony. I'm sorry, Tony Hawk.


COULTON: All right. This is a classic drink for a classic pop artist and Andy Warhol contemporary. Scotch, sweet vermouth and a few dashes of bitters. Serve it to the subject of "Crying Girl." She looks like she could use it despite living in a comic strip.

PHILIPPS: Jonathan, this one's too hard. We're too...

COULTON: That's a lot of words.

JACKSON: I don't know the...

PHILIPPS: Also, we're too young.


PHILIPPS: We don't know any of these things - who it is.

COULTON: Do you know the cocktail? Scotch and sweet vermouth?

JACKSON: No, I don't. I don't know the answer to this.

EISENBERG: Based on a Scottish folk hero.

PHILIPPS: It's - hold on. I'm thinking.

JACKSON: I 100% am not thinking.



COULTON: Sometimes, that's a good strategy.

PHILIPPS: Oh, a Rob Roy.



PHILIPPS: Rob Roy Lichtenstein.



PHILIPPS: Oh, yeah, there we go.

COULTON: Fantastic.

PHILIPPS: Rob Roy Lichtenstein.

EISENBERG: That's right.

PHILIPPS: So you just have to get one, so then you can, like...

EISENBERG: Yeah, and then you're done. You're in.

PHILIPPS: Thank God.

JACKSON: Shoutout to Busy. I did not know the answer to either of those.

EISENBERG: This is...

PHILIPPS: We did good on that, though.

EISENBERG: You did fantastic.

JACKSON: I'm proud of us.


EISENBERG: We have more with Busy and Shantira after the break, and later, RZA. I'm Ophira Eisenberg, and this is ASK ME ANOTHER from NPR.

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